Discussion for 90 year old male CC: Chest pain– Revisited

We are revisiting the Discussion for 90 year old male CC: Chest pain.  You may wish to review the case.

You may recall we pointed out that the VT appeared be regularly irregular, with alternating cycle lengths:

What follows is a "Guest Post" by Jason Roediger, CCT/CRAT, and Ken Grauer, M.D. (www.kg-ekgpress.com):

"The rhythm represents VT for all of the morphologic reasons discussed in your explanation. The reason for the repetitive regular irregularity of this ventricular rhythm is that the tracing represents VT with retrograde 3:2 Wenckebach Exit block out of the ventricular focus. The discharge rate of the ectopic ventricular focus is ~240/minute.

This results in a manifest ventricular rate that is about 2/3 the presumed discharge rate and reduces the manifest rate to ~160/minute. Note the characteristic Wenckebach periodicity conducting retrograde (with a 3:2 ratio) out of the ventricular focus in the laddergram below. FINAL point: in addition to the bizarre marked axis deviation, the entirely negative QRS in V6 with delayed nadir and other morphologic clues you state in support of the diagnosis of VT-WPW can be ruled out by the negative QS complexes in V4-V6 (Brugada)."

 

Many thanks to Jason and Ken for their insightful analysis. We are always learning!

 

 

 

 

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Dominic
Conclusion to 59 Year Old Male: Unwell
Great discussion on a difficult 12lead! I follow these very closely and based on pt presentation and 12lead tracing, this was a difficult or to treat with impending heart failure, hypotension, and trouble breathing. Thanks for the follow up and look forward to next week!
2015-07-06 20:53:35
Billy
Conclusion to 59 Year Old Male: Unwell
Hmmmm, I was fairly close. Sounds like most of the treatment occurred IN Hospital. Love case studies, and that one was good.
2015-07-06 20:28:25
Kori
59 Year Old Male: Unwell
There's the point! There is are no P waves, and the rhythm is irregulary-irregular-atrial fibrillation. If you look, it is rsR phenomen-RBBB, BUT there are huge ST elevations on all leads from V1-V5 (that's why the QRS complexes look so broad). I and aVL is clearly ST elevation suggesting STEMI. In limb leads you can…
2015-07-06 10:12:16
Vince DiGiulio
Conclusion to 59 Year Old Male: Unwell
I'll expand on this in the next post but unfortunately I actually wasn't present for this case so I can't give my direct account of how things happened. That said, from the notes I read and word-of-mouth from those involved (which I suspect painted things in a better light than I would have viewed them),…
2015-07-06 04:09:22
Matt King
Conclusion to 59 Year Old Male: Unwell
Hey Vince thanks for the through follow up with this case. I am curious how his rate was controlled since he was hypotensive and maybe an unknown onset of when his A-Fib stated(thinking anticoagulation first)? As you know the wrong approach could be devastating in this PT with risks of further infarction, stroke, or death…
2015-07-05 14:10:57

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